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    <description>Fork It 是一个针对区块链技术的中文播客节目，四位主播分别为 Terry (https://twitter.com/poshboytl) , Jan (https://twitter.com/janhxie) ,  Kevin (https://twitter.com/knwang) 和 Daniel (https://twitter.com/lgn21st)。他们还一起创办过中文技术播客节目  Teahour.FM (http://teahour.fm/)。这一次他们因为区块链技术再一次相聚，并创办了 Fork It. 从一线从业者眼中，了解区块链技术的方方面面和发展方向....
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为了让大家更好的进行交流，我们建立了 Fork It Group (https://t.me/forkitfm)，大家如果对节目、对区块链有任何想法，请在群里尽情讨论～主播们也会积极参与哦。
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  <itunes:subtitle>本期是由 Daniel 和 Terry 共同主持，我们邀请了 BTCStudy.org 的内容负责人阿剑老师，来跟大家聊聊关于 PoW vs PoS 的争论，他的观点和立场。</itunes:subtitle>
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  <description>&lt;p&gt;本期是由 &lt;a href="https://twitter.com/lgn21st" target="_blank" rel="nofollow noopener"&gt;Daniel&lt;/a&gt; 和 &lt;a href="https://twitter.com/poshboytl" target="_blank" rel="nofollow noopener"&gt;Terry&lt;/a&gt; 共同主持，我们邀请了 &lt;a href="https://www.btcstudy.org/" target="_blank" rel="nofollow noopener"&gt;BTCStudy&lt;/a&gt; 的内容负责人阿剑老师，来跟大家聊聊关于 PoW vs PoS 的争论，他的观点和立场。&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;阿剑老师曾经是以太坊中文社区非常硬核的研究者，翻译者，内容贡献者，主持人的愿望是话题能够深入浅出，但是阿剑老师实力不允许，所以如果你对 PoW/PoS 以及分布式共识算法的设计思想和基础概念有所了解，那么会帮助你理解为什么通过阿剑老师的分析可以得出 PoW 全面优于 PoS 这个结论。&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;如果对 “Ethereum Merge” 的问题分析以及什么是 “比特币思想” 更感兴趣，不妨直接跳到 1:10:00 开始听。&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;访谈结尾处阿剑老师最让我动容的一段话，我摘录于此：一个技术范式应该想到它应该保护自己的用户，它应该保护共识，它应该珍惜每一分来之不易的共识，它应该容纳每一个可能容纳的个体去进入这个生态，去能够用它来继续做梦，去 为一个遥远的我能够想象的美好未来去奋斗。&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;h3&gt;Show Notes&lt;/h3&gt;

&lt;ul&gt;
&lt;li&gt;关于 Ethereum Merge &lt;a href="https://ethereum.org/en/upgrades/merge/#what-is-the-merge" target="_blank" rel="nofollow noopener"&gt;https://ethereum.org/en/upgrades/merge/#what-is-the-merge&lt;/a&gt;
&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;Forkit 关于 PoW v.s. PoS &lt;a href="https://forkit.fm/22" target="_blank" rel="nofollow noopener"&gt;https://forkit.fm/22&lt;/a&gt;
&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;Leslie Lamport &lt;a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Leslie_Lamport" target="_blank" rel="nofollow noopener"&gt;https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Leslie_Lamport&lt;/a&gt;
&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;拜占庭将军问题 The Byzantine Generals Problem &lt;a href="https://lamport.azurewebsites.net/pubs/byz.pdf" target="_blank" rel="nofollow noopener"&gt;https://lamport.azurewebsites.net/pubs/byz.pdf&lt;/a&gt;
&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;Stake Grinding attacks 权益研磨攻击 &lt;a href="https://dyor-crypto.fandom.com/wiki/Grinding_Attack" target="_blank" rel="nofollow noopener"&gt;https://dyor-crypto.fandom.com/wiki/Grinding_Attack&lt;/a&gt;
&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;Nothing at stake attacks &lt;a href="https://medium.com/coinmonks/understanding-proof-of-stake-the-nothing-at-stake-theory-1f0d71bc027" target="_blank" rel="nofollow noopener"&gt;https://medium.com/coinmonks/understanding-proof-of-stake-the-nothing-at-stake-theory-1f0d71bc027&lt;/a&gt;
&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;Long range attacks &lt;a href="https://blog.positive.com/rewriting-history-a-brief-introduction-to-long-range-attacks-54e473acdba9" target="_blank" rel="nofollow noopener"&gt;https://blog.positive.com/rewriting-history-a-brief-introduction-to-long-range-attacks-54e473acdba9&lt;/a&gt;
&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;Poelstra：论权益与共识

&lt;ul&gt;
&lt;li&gt;英文：&lt;a href="https://download.wpsoftware.net/bitcoin/pos.pdf" target="_blank" rel="nofollow noopener"&gt;https://download.wpsoftware.net/bitcoin/pos.pdf&lt;/a&gt;
&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;中文：&lt;a href="https://www.btcstudy.org/2021/09/23/on-stake-and-consensus-by-Andrew-Poelstra/" target="_blank" rel="nofollow noopener"&gt;https://www.btcstudy.org/2021/09/23/on-stake-and-consensus-by-Andrew-Poelstra/&lt;/a&gt;
&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;/ul&gt;
&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;PoS的根本缺陷在于循环论证 &lt;a href="https://www.bitpush.news/articles/2460124" target="_blank" rel="nofollow noopener"&gt;https://www.bitpush.news/articles/2460124&lt;/a&gt;
&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;social consensus &lt;a href="https://medium.com/@VitalikButerin/a-proof-of-stake-design-philosophy-506585978d51" target="_blank" rel="nofollow noopener"&gt;https://medium.com/@VitalikButerin/a-proof-of-stake-design-philosophy-506585978d51&lt;/a&gt;
&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;Weak Subjectivity 弱主观性 &lt;a href="https://ethereum.org/en/developers/docs/consensus-mechanisms/pos/weak-subjectivity/" target="_blank" rel="nofollow noopener"&gt;https://ethereum.org/en/developers/docs/consensus-mechanisms/pos/weak-subjectivity/&lt;/a&gt;
&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;Balancing attack 平衡攻击 &lt;a href="https://ethresear.ch/t/a-balancing-attack-on-gasper-the-current-candidate-for-eth2s-beacon-chain/8079" target="_blank" rel="nofollow noopener"&gt;https://ethresear.ch/t/a-balancing-attack-on-gasper-the-current-candidate-for-eth2s-beacon-chain/8079&lt;/a&gt;
&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;zack-bitcoin：PoS 辩护意见大全

&lt;ul&gt;
&lt;li&gt;英文：&lt;a href="https://github.com/zack-bitcoin/amoveo-docs/blob/master/other_blockchains/the_defence_of_pos.md" target="_blank" rel="nofollow noopener"&gt;https://github.com/zack-bitcoin/amoveo-docs/blob/master/other_blockchains/the_defence_of_pos.md&lt;/a&gt;
&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;中文：&lt;a href="https://mp.weixin.qq.com/s/7qEWFWAQIPz5-2I-aWv4ww" target="_blank" rel="nofollow noopener"&gt;https://mp.weixin.qq.com/s/7qEWFWAQIPz5-2I-aWv4ww&lt;/a&gt;
&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;/ul&gt;
&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;PoW 与 PoS 的真正区别：判质费用决定了谁更适合构建货币

&lt;ul&gt;
&lt;li&gt;中文：&lt;a href="https://mp.weixin.qq.com/s/s75Luba4C6bm0YBNiZucQA" target="_blank" rel="nofollow noopener"&gt;https://mp.weixin.qq.com/s/s75Luba4C6bm0YBNiZucQA&lt;/a&gt;
&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;/ul&gt;
&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;对 PoS 的简单批评：

&lt;ul&gt;
&lt;li&gt;中文：&lt;a href="https://github.com/editor-Ajian/Personal-Work/blob/main/%EF%BC%882020.10%EF%BC%89%E5%AF%B9" target="_blank" rel="nofollow noopener"&gt;https://github.com/editor-Ajian/Personal-Work/blob/main/（2020.10）对&lt;/a&gt; PoS 的简单技术批评.pdf&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;/ul&gt;
&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;关于大区块以及比特币扩容之争 &lt;a href="https://www.jiemian.com/article/3334359.html" target="_blank" rel="nofollow noopener"&gt;https://www.jiemian.com/article/3334359.html&lt;/a&gt;
&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;以太坊的扩容方案以二层 Rollup 为核心 &lt;a href="https://ethereum-magicians.org/t/a-rollup-centric-ethereum-roadmap/4698" target="_blank" rel="nofollow noopener"&gt;https://ethereum-magicians.org/t/a-rollup-centric-ethereum-roadmap/4698&lt;/a&gt;
&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;通过 EIP-4488 降低 Calldata 成本 &lt;a href="https://eips.ethereum.org/EIPS/eip-4488" target="_blank" rel="nofollow noopener"&gt;https://eips.ethereum.org/EIPS/eip-4488&lt;/a&gt;
&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;Optimistic Rollup &lt;a href="https://ethereum.org/en/developers/docs/scaling/optimistic-rollups/" target="_blank" rel="nofollow noopener"&gt;https://ethereum.org/en/developers/docs/scaling/optimistic-rollups/&lt;/a&gt;
&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;Zero-Knowledge Rollup &lt;a href="https://ethereum.org/en/developers/docs/scaling/zk-rollups" target="_blank" rel="nofollow noopener"&gt;https://ethereum.org/en/developers/docs/scaling/zk-rollups&lt;/a&gt;
&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;Validium Rollup &lt;a href="https://ethereum.org/en/developers/docs/scaling/validium/" target="_blank" rel="nofollow noopener"&gt;https://ethereum.org/en/developers/docs/scaling/validium/&lt;/a&gt;
&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;John Adler：基于委员会的分片的安全性与可扩展性

&lt;ul&gt;
&lt;li&gt;英文：&lt;a href="https://medium.com/@adlerjohn/security-and-scalability-in-committee-based-blockchain-sharding-58fab3901193" target="_blank" rel="nofollow noopener"&gt;https://medium.com/@adlerjohn/security-and-scalability-in-committee-based-blockchain-sharding-58fab3901193&lt;/a&gt;
&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;中文：&lt;a href="https://mp.weixin.qq.com/s/4GGMzuveokO9Cyt02Y06Zg" target="_blank" rel="nofollow noopener"&gt;https://mp.weixin.qq.com/s/4GGMzuveokO9Cyt02Y06Zg&lt;/a&gt;
&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;/ul&gt;
&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;Ruben Somsen：SNARK 与区块链的未来：

&lt;ul&gt;
&lt;li&gt;英文：&lt;a href="https://medium.com/@RubenSomsen/snarks-and-the-future-of-blockchains-55b82012452b" target="_blank" rel="nofollow noopener"&gt;https://medium.com/@RubenSomsen/snarks-and-the-future-of-blockchains-55b82012452b&lt;/a&gt;
&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;中文：&lt;a href="https://www.btcstudy.org/2021/11/11/snarks-and-the-future-of-blockchains/" target="_blank" rel="nofollow noopener"&gt;https://www.btcstudy.org/2021/11/11/snarks-and-the-future-of-blockchains/&lt;/a&gt;
&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;/ul&gt;
&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;Vitalik：Proto-Danksharding FAQ

&lt;ul&gt;
&lt;li&gt;英文：&lt;a href="https://notes.ethereum.org/@vbuterin/proto_danksharding_faq" target="_blank" rel="nofollow noopener"&gt;https://notes.ethereum.org/@vbuterin/proto_danksharding_faq&lt;/a&gt;
&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;中文：&lt;a href="https://learnblockchain.cn/article/3769" target="_blank" rel="nofollow noopener"&gt;https://learnblockchain.cn/article/3769&lt;/a&gt;
&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;/ul&gt;
&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;EthFans 以太坊爱好者的告别信 &lt;a href="https://mp.weixin.qq.com/s/bYLKXk1VjebUWNBpHt51OA" target="_blank" rel="nofollow noopener"&gt;https://mp.weixin.qq.com/s/bYLKXk1VjebUWNBpHt51OA&lt;/a&gt;
&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;BTCStudy &lt;a href="https://www.btcstudy.org" target="_blank" rel="nofollow noopener"&gt;https://www.btcstudy.org&lt;/a&gt;
&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;矿工不会接受EIP -1559，因为这是永久的收益剥夺 &lt;a href="https://zhuanlan.zhihu.com/p/353686050" target="_blank" rel="nofollow noopener"&gt;https://zhuanlan.zhihu.com/p/353686050&lt;/a&gt;
&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;失而复得但是评论全部丢失的预言家周报第 130 期《以太坊的隐忧》 &lt;a href="https://mp.weixin.qq.com/s/8i5X2KCVw7iLKlLrKR1njA" target="_blank" rel="nofollow noopener"&gt;https://mp.weixin.qq.com/s/8i5X2KCVw7iLKlLrKR1njA&lt;/a&gt;
&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;关于被举报的预言家周报第 130 期（在微信中打开可以看评论） &lt;a href="https://mp.weixin.qq.com/s/Eg8fO-8LRUC9EJTaPoQdww" target="_blank" rel="nofollow noopener"&gt;https://mp.weixin.qq.com/s/Eg8fO-8LRUC9EJTaPoQdww&lt;/a&gt;
&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;隔离见证 SegWit &lt;a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/SegWit" target="_blank" rel="nofollow noopener"&gt;https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/SegWit&lt;/a&gt;
&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;比特币升级提案 Taproot 技术解读 &lt;a href="https://www.btcstudy.org/2021/10/27/taproot-is-more-important-than-your-imageine/" target="_blank" rel="nofollow noopener"&gt;https://www.btcstudy.org/2021/10/27/taproot-is-more-important-than-your-imageine/&lt;/a&gt;
&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;BTCStudy 文化标签页，了解比特币精神的入口 &lt;a href="https://www.btcstudy.org/tags/%E6%96%87%E5%8C%96/" target="_blank" rel="nofollow noopener"&gt;https://www.btcstudy.org/tags/文化/&lt;/a&gt;
&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;/ul&gt;

&lt;p&gt;Pick 环节&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;ul&gt;
&lt;li&gt;自带支架和蓝光护眼认证，高性价比的微星显示器 &lt;a href="https://item.m.jd.com/product/100017353855.html" target="_blank" rel="nofollow noopener"&gt;https://item.m.jd.com/product/100017353855.html&lt;/a&gt;
&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;Nostr &lt;a href="https://github.com/nostr-protocol/nostr" target="_blank" rel="nofollow noopener"&gt;https://github.com/nostr-protocol/nostr&lt;/a&gt;
&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;Zettelkasten 卡片式笔记方法简介 &lt;a href="https://zettelkasten.de/introduction/zh/" target="_blank" rel="nofollow noopener"&gt;https://zettelkasten.de/introduction/zh/&lt;/a&gt;
&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;北斗儿童3D凹凸地图 &lt;a href="https://www.taobao.com/list/item/660658781791.htm" target="_blank" rel="nofollow noopener"&gt;https://www.taobao.com/list/item/660658781791.htm&lt;/a&gt; Special Guest: 阿剑.&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;/ul&gt;
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    <![CDATA[<p>本期是由 <a href="https://twitter.com/lgn21st" rel="nofollow">Daniel</a> 和 <a href="https://twitter.com/poshboytl" rel="nofollow">Terry</a> 共同主持，我们邀请了 <a href="https://www.btcstudy.org/" rel="nofollow">BTCStudy</a> 的内容负责人阿剑老师，来跟大家聊聊关于 PoW vs PoS 的争论，他的观点和立场。</p>

<p>阿剑老师曾经是以太坊中文社区非常硬核的研究者，翻译者，内容贡献者，主持人的愿望是话题能够深入浅出，但是阿剑老师实力不允许，所以如果你对 PoW/PoS 以及分布式共识算法的设计思想和基础概念有所了解，那么会帮助你理解为什么通过阿剑老师的分析可以得出 PoW 全面优于 PoS 这个结论。</p>

<p>如果对 “Ethereum Merge” 的问题分析以及什么是 “比特币思想” 更感兴趣，不妨直接跳到 1:10:00 开始听。</p>

<p>访谈结尾处阿剑老师最让我动容的一段话，我摘录于此：一个技术范式应该想到它应该保护自己的用户，它应该保护共识，它应该珍惜每一分来之不易的共识，它应该容纳每一个可能容纳的个体去进入这个生态，去能够用它来继续做梦，去 为一个遥远的我能够想象的美好未来去奋斗。</p>

<h3>Show Notes</h3>

<ul>
<li>关于 Ethereum Merge <a href="https://ethereum.org/en/upgrades/merge/#what-is-the-merge" rel="nofollow">https://ethereum.org/en/upgrades/merge/#what-is-the-merge</a></li>
<li>Forkit 关于 PoW v.s. PoS <a href="https://forkit.fm/22" rel="nofollow">https://forkit.fm/22</a></li>
<li>Leslie Lamport <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Leslie_Lamport" rel="nofollow">https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Leslie_Lamport</a></li>
<li>拜占庭将军问题 The Byzantine Generals Problem <a href="https://lamport.azurewebsites.net/pubs/byz.pdf" rel="nofollow">https://lamport.azurewebsites.net/pubs/byz.pdf</a></li>
<li>Stake Grinding attacks 权益研磨攻击 <a href="https://dyor-crypto.fandom.com/wiki/Grinding_Attack" rel="nofollow">https://dyor-crypto.fandom.com/wiki/Grinding_Attack</a></li>
<li>Nothing at stake attacks <a href="https://medium.com/coinmonks/understanding-proof-of-stake-the-nothing-at-stake-theory-1f0d71bc027" rel="nofollow">https://medium.com/coinmonks/understanding-proof-of-stake-the-nothing-at-stake-theory-1f0d71bc027</a></li>
<li>Long range attacks <a href="https://blog.positive.com/rewriting-history-a-brief-introduction-to-long-range-attacks-54e473acdba9" rel="nofollow">https://blog.positive.com/rewriting-history-a-brief-introduction-to-long-range-attacks-54e473acdba9</a></li>
<li>Poelstra：论权益与共识

<ul>
<li>英文：<a href="https://download.wpsoftware.net/bitcoin/pos.pdf" rel="nofollow">https://download.wpsoftware.net/bitcoin/pos.pdf</a></li>
<li>中文：<a href="https://www.btcstudy.org/2021/09/23/on-stake-and-consensus-by-Andrew-Poelstra/" rel="nofollow">https://www.btcstudy.org/2021/09/23/on-stake-and-consensus-by-Andrew-Poelstra/</a></li>
</ul></li>
<li>PoS的根本缺陷在于循环论证 <a href="https://www.bitpush.news/articles/2460124" rel="nofollow">https://www.bitpush.news/articles/2460124</a></li>
<li>social consensus <a href="https://medium.com/@VitalikButerin/a-proof-of-stake-design-philosophy-506585978d51" rel="nofollow">https://medium.com/@VitalikButerin/a-proof-of-stake-design-philosophy-506585978d51</a></li>
<li>Weak Subjectivity 弱主观性 <a href="https://ethereum.org/en/developers/docs/consensus-mechanisms/pos/weak-subjectivity/" rel="nofollow">https://ethereum.org/en/developers/docs/consensus-mechanisms/pos/weak-subjectivity/</a></li>
<li>Balancing attack 平衡攻击 <a href="https://ethresear.ch/t/a-balancing-attack-on-gasper-the-current-candidate-for-eth2s-beacon-chain/8079" rel="nofollow">https://ethresear.ch/t/a-balancing-attack-on-gasper-the-current-candidate-for-eth2s-beacon-chain/8079</a></li>
<li>zack-bitcoin：PoS 辩护意见大全

<ul>
<li>英文：<a href="https://github.com/zack-bitcoin/amoveo-docs/blob/master/other_blockchains/the_defence_of_pos.md" rel="nofollow">https://github.com/zack-bitcoin/amoveo-docs/blob/master/other_blockchains/the_defence_of_pos.md</a></li>
<li>中文：<a href="https://mp.weixin.qq.com/s/7qEWFWAQIPz5-2I-aWv4ww" rel="nofollow">https://mp.weixin.qq.com/s/7qEWFWAQIPz5-2I-aWv4ww</a></li>
</ul></li>
<li>PoW 与 PoS 的真正区别：判质费用决定了谁更适合构建货币

<ul>
<li>中文：<a href="https://mp.weixin.qq.com/s/s75Luba4C6bm0YBNiZucQA" rel="nofollow">https://mp.weixin.qq.com/s/s75Luba4C6bm0YBNiZucQA</a></li>
</ul></li>
<li>对 PoS 的简单批评：

<ul>
<li>中文：<a href="https://github.com/editor-Ajian/Personal-Work/blob/main/%EF%BC%882020.10%EF%BC%89%E5%AF%B9" rel="nofollow">https://github.com/editor-Ajian/Personal-Work/blob/main/（2020.10）对</a> PoS 的简单技术批评.pdf</li>
</ul></li>
<li>关于大区块以及比特币扩容之争 <a href="https://www.jiemian.com/article/3334359.html" rel="nofollow">https://www.jiemian.com/article/3334359.html</a></li>
<li>以太坊的扩容方案以二层 Rollup 为核心 <a href="https://ethereum-magicians.org/t/a-rollup-centric-ethereum-roadmap/4698" rel="nofollow">https://ethereum-magicians.org/t/a-rollup-centric-ethereum-roadmap/4698</a></li>
<li>通过 EIP-4488 降低 Calldata 成本 <a href="https://eips.ethereum.org/EIPS/eip-4488" rel="nofollow">https://eips.ethereum.org/EIPS/eip-4488</a></li>
<li>Optimistic Rollup <a href="https://ethereum.org/en/developers/docs/scaling/optimistic-rollups/" rel="nofollow">https://ethereum.org/en/developers/docs/scaling/optimistic-rollups/</a></li>
<li>Zero-Knowledge Rollup <a href="https://ethereum.org/en/developers/docs/scaling/zk-rollups" rel="nofollow">https://ethereum.org/en/developers/docs/scaling/zk-rollups</a></li>
<li>Validium Rollup <a href="https://ethereum.org/en/developers/docs/scaling/validium/" rel="nofollow">https://ethereum.org/en/developers/docs/scaling/validium/</a></li>
<li>John Adler：基于委员会的分片的安全性与可扩展性

<ul>
<li>英文：<a href="https://medium.com/@adlerjohn/security-and-scalability-in-committee-based-blockchain-sharding-58fab3901193" rel="nofollow">https://medium.com/@adlerjohn/security-and-scalability-in-committee-based-blockchain-sharding-58fab3901193</a></li>
<li>中文：<a href="https://mp.weixin.qq.com/s/4GGMzuveokO9Cyt02Y06Zg" rel="nofollow">https://mp.weixin.qq.com/s/4GGMzuveokO9Cyt02Y06Zg</a></li>
</ul></li>
<li>Ruben Somsen：SNARK 与区块链的未来：

<ul>
<li>英文：<a href="https://medium.com/@RubenSomsen/snarks-and-the-future-of-blockchains-55b82012452b" rel="nofollow">https://medium.com/@RubenSomsen/snarks-and-the-future-of-blockchains-55b82012452b</a></li>
<li>中文：<a href="https://www.btcstudy.org/2021/11/11/snarks-and-the-future-of-blockchains/" rel="nofollow">https://www.btcstudy.org/2021/11/11/snarks-and-the-future-of-blockchains/</a></li>
</ul></li>
<li>Vitalik：Proto-Danksharding FAQ

<ul>
<li>英文：<a href="https://notes.ethereum.org/@vbuterin/proto_danksharding_faq" rel="nofollow">https://notes.ethereum.org/@vbuterin/proto_danksharding_faq</a></li>
<li>中文：<a href="https://learnblockchain.cn/article/3769" rel="nofollow">https://learnblockchain.cn/article/3769</a></li>
</ul></li>
<li>EthFans 以太坊爱好者的告别信 <a href="https://mp.weixin.qq.com/s/bYLKXk1VjebUWNBpHt51OA" rel="nofollow">https://mp.weixin.qq.com/s/bYLKXk1VjebUWNBpHt51OA</a></li>
<li>BTCStudy <a href="https://www.btcstudy.org" rel="nofollow">https://www.btcstudy.org</a></li>
<li>矿工不会接受EIP -1559，因为这是永久的收益剥夺 <a href="https://zhuanlan.zhihu.com/p/353686050" rel="nofollow">https://zhuanlan.zhihu.com/p/353686050</a></li>
<li>失而复得但是评论全部丢失的预言家周报第 130 期《以太坊的隐忧》 <a href="https://mp.weixin.qq.com/s/8i5X2KCVw7iLKlLrKR1njA" rel="nofollow">https://mp.weixin.qq.com/s/8i5X2KCVw7iLKlLrKR1njA</a></li>
<li>关于被举报的预言家周报第 130 期（在微信中打开可以看评论） <a href="https://mp.weixin.qq.com/s/Eg8fO-8LRUC9EJTaPoQdww" rel="nofollow">https://mp.weixin.qq.com/s/Eg8fO-8LRUC9EJTaPoQdww</a></li>
<li>隔离见证 SegWit <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/SegWit" rel="nofollow">https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/SegWit</a></li>
<li>比特币升级提案 Taproot 技术解读 <a href="https://www.btcstudy.org/2021/10/27/taproot-is-more-important-than-your-imageine/" rel="nofollow">https://www.btcstudy.org/2021/10/27/taproot-is-more-important-than-your-imageine/</a></li>
<li>BTCStudy 文化标签页，了解比特币精神的入口 <a href="https://www.btcstudy.org/tags/%E6%96%87%E5%8C%96/" rel="nofollow">https://www.btcstudy.org/tags/文化/</a></li>
</ul>

<p>Pick 环节</p>

<ul>
<li>自带支架和蓝光护眼认证，高性价比的微星显示器 <a href="https://item.m.jd.com/product/100017353855.html" rel="nofollow">https://item.m.jd.com/product/100017353855.html</a></li>
<li>Nostr <a href="https://github.com/nostr-protocol/nostr" rel="nofollow">https://github.com/nostr-protocol/nostr</a></li>
<li>Zettelkasten 卡片式笔记方法简介 <a href="https://zettelkasten.de/introduction/zh/" rel="nofollow">https://zettelkasten.de/introduction/zh/</a></li>
<li>北斗儿童3D凹凸地图 <a href="https://www.taobao.com/list/item/660658781791.htm" rel="nofollow">https://www.taobao.com/list/item/660658781791.htm</a></li>
</ul><p>Special Guest: 阿剑.</p>]]>
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    <![CDATA[<p>本期是由 <a href="https://twitter.com/lgn21st" rel="nofollow">Daniel</a> 和 <a href="https://twitter.com/poshboytl" rel="nofollow">Terry</a> 共同主持，我们邀请了 <a href="https://www.btcstudy.org/" rel="nofollow">BTCStudy</a> 的内容负责人阿剑老师，来跟大家聊聊关于 PoW vs PoS 的争论，他的观点和立场。</p>

<p>阿剑老师曾经是以太坊中文社区非常硬核的研究者，翻译者，内容贡献者，主持人的愿望是话题能够深入浅出，但是阿剑老师实力不允许，所以如果你对 PoW/PoS 以及分布式共识算法的设计思想和基础概念有所了解，那么会帮助你理解为什么通过阿剑老师的分析可以得出 PoW 全面优于 PoS 这个结论。</p>

<p>如果对 “Ethereum Merge” 的问题分析以及什么是 “比特币思想” 更感兴趣，不妨直接跳到 1:10:00 开始听。</p>

<p>访谈结尾处阿剑老师最让我动容的一段话，我摘录于此：一个技术范式应该想到它应该保护自己的用户，它应该保护共识，它应该珍惜每一分来之不易的共识，它应该容纳每一个可能容纳的个体去进入这个生态，去能够用它来继续做梦，去 为一个遥远的我能够想象的美好未来去奋斗。</p>

<h3>Show Notes</h3>

<ul>
<li>关于 Ethereum Merge <a href="https://ethereum.org/en/upgrades/merge/#what-is-the-merge" rel="nofollow">https://ethereum.org/en/upgrades/merge/#what-is-the-merge</a></li>
<li>Forkit 关于 PoW v.s. PoS <a href="https://forkit.fm/22" rel="nofollow">https://forkit.fm/22</a></li>
<li>Leslie Lamport <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Leslie_Lamport" rel="nofollow">https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Leslie_Lamport</a></li>
<li>拜占庭将军问题 The Byzantine Generals Problem <a href="https://lamport.azurewebsites.net/pubs/byz.pdf" rel="nofollow">https://lamport.azurewebsites.net/pubs/byz.pdf</a></li>
<li>Stake Grinding attacks 权益研磨攻击 <a href="https://dyor-crypto.fandom.com/wiki/Grinding_Attack" rel="nofollow">https://dyor-crypto.fandom.com/wiki/Grinding_Attack</a></li>
<li>Nothing at stake attacks <a href="https://medium.com/coinmonks/understanding-proof-of-stake-the-nothing-at-stake-theory-1f0d71bc027" rel="nofollow">https://medium.com/coinmonks/understanding-proof-of-stake-the-nothing-at-stake-theory-1f0d71bc027</a></li>
<li>Long range attacks <a href="https://blog.positive.com/rewriting-history-a-brief-introduction-to-long-range-attacks-54e473acdba9" rel="nofollow">https://blog.positive.com/rewriting-history-a-brief-introduction-to-long-range-attacks-54e473acdba9</a></li>
<li>Poelstra：论权益与共识

<ul>
<li>英文：<a href="https://download.wpsoftware.net/bitcoin/pos.pdf" rel="nofollow">https://download.wpsoftware.net/bitcoin/pos.pdf</a></li>
<li>中文：<a href="https://www.btcstudy.org/2021/09/23/on-stake-and-consensus-by-Andrew-Poelstra/" rel="nofollow">https://www.btcstudy.org/2021/09/23/on-stake-and-consensus-by-Andrew-Poelstra/</a></li>
</ul></li>
<li>PoS的根本缺陷在于循环论证 <a href="https://www.bitpush.news/articles/2460124" rel="nofollow">https://www.bitpush.news/articles/2460124</a></li>
<li>social consensus <a href="https://medium.com/@VitalikButerin/a-proof-of-stake-design-philosophy-506585978d51" rel="nofollow">https://medium.com/@VitalikButerin/a-proof-of-stake-design-philosophy-506585978d51</a></li>
<li>Weak Subjectivity 弱主观性 <a href="https://ethereum.org/en/developers/docs/consensus-mechanisms/pos/weak-subjectivity/" rel="nofollow">https://ethereum.org/en/developers/docs/consensus-mechanisms/pos/weak-subjectivity/</a></li>
<li>Balancing attack 平衡攻击 <a href="https://ethresear.ch/t/a-balancing-attack-on-gasper-the-current-candidate-for-eth2s-beacon-chain/8079" rel="nofollow">https://ethresear.ch/t/a-balancing-attack-on-gasper-the-current-candidate-for-eth2s-beacon-chain/8079</a></li>
<li>zack-bitcoin：PoS 辩护意见大全

<ul>
<li>英文：<a href="https://github.com/zack-bitcoin/amoveo-docs/blob/master/other_blockchains/the_defence_of_pos.md" rel="nofollow">https://github.com/zack-bitcoin/amoveo-docs/blob/master/other_blockchains/the_defence_of_pos.md</a></li>
<li>中文：<a href="https://mp.weixin.qq.com/s/7qEWFWAQIPz5-2I-aWv4ww" rel="nofollow">https://mp.weixin.qq.com/s/7qEWFWAQIPz5-2I-aWv4ww</a></li>
</ul></li>
<li>PoW 与 PoS 的真正区别：判质费用决定了谁更适合构建货币

<ul>
<li>中文：<a href="https://mp.weixin.qq.com/s/s75Luba4C6bm0YBNiZucQA" rel="nofollow">https://mp.weixin.qq.com/s/s75Luba4C6bm0YBNiZucQA</a></li>
</ul></li>
<li>对 PoS 的简单批评：

<ul>
<li>中文：<a href="https://github.com/editor-Ajian/Personal-Work/blob/main/%EF%BC%882020.10%EF%BC%89%E5%AF%B9" rel="nofollow">https://github.com/editor-Ajian/Personal-Work/blob/main/（2020.10）对</a> PoS 的简单技术批评.pdf</li>
</ul></li>
<li>关于大区块以及比特币扩容之争 <a href="https://www.jiemian.com/article/3334359.html" rel="nofollow">https://www.jiemian.com/article/3334359.html</a></li>
<li>以太坊的扩容方案以二层 Rollup 为核心 <a href="https://ethereum-magicians.org/t/a-rollup-centric-ethereum-roadmap/4698" rel="nofollow">https://ethereum-magicians.org/t/a-rollup-centric-ethereum-roadmap/4698</a></li>
<li>通过 EIP-4488 降低 Calldata 成本 <a href="https://eips.ethereum.org/EIPS/eip-4488" rel="nofollow">https://eips.ethereum.org/EIPS/eip-4488</a></li>
<li>Optimistic Rollup <a href="https://ethereum.org/en/developers/docs/scaling/optimistic-rollups/" rel="nofollow">https://ethereum.org/en/developers/docs/scaling/optimistic-rollups/</a></li>
<li>Zero-Knowledge Rollup <a href="https://ethereum.org/en/developers/docs/scaling/zk-rollups" rel="nofollow">https://ethereum.org/en/developers/docs/scaling/zk-rollups</a></li>
<li>Validium Rollup <a href="https://ethereum.org/en/developers/docs/scaling/validium/" rel="nofollow">https://ethereum.org/en/developers/docs/scaling/validium/</a></li>
<li>John Adler：基于委员会的分片的安全性与可扩展性

<ul>
<li>英文：<a href="https://medium.com/@adlerjohn/security-and-scalability-in-committee-based-blockchain-sharding-58fab3901193" rel="nofollow">https://medium.com/@adlerjohn/security-and-scalability-in-committee-based-blockchain-sharding-58fab3901193</a></li>
<li>中文：<a href="https://mp.weixin.qq.com/s/4GGMzuveokO9Cyt02Y06Zg" rel="nofollow">https://mp.weixin.qq.com/s/4GGMzuveokO9Cyt02Y06Zg</a></li>
</ul></li>
<li>Ruben Somsen：SNARK 与区块链的未来：

<ul>
<li>英文：<a href="https://medium.com/@RubenSomsen/snarks-and-the-future-of-blockchains-55b82012452b" rel="nofollow">https://medium.com/@RubenSomsen/snarks-and-the-future-of-blockchains-55b82012452b</a></li>
<li>中文：<a href="https://www.btcstudy.org/2021/11/11/snarks-and-the-future-of-blockchains/" rel="nofollow">https://www.btcstudy.org/2021/11/11/snarks-and-the-future-of-blockchains/</a></li>
</ul></li>
<li>Vitalik：Proto-Danksharding FAQ

<ul>
<li>英文：<a href="https://notes.ethereum.org/@vbuterin/proto_danksharding_faq" rel="nofollow">https://notes.ethereum.org/@vbuterin/proto_danksharding_faq</a></li>
<li>中文：<a href="https://learnblockchain.cn/article/3769" rel="nofollow">https://learnblockchain.cn/article/3769</a></li>
</ul></li>
<li>EthFans 以太坊爱好者的告别信 <a href="https://mp.weixin.qq.com/s/bYLKXk1VjebUWNBpHt51OA" rel="nofollow">https://mp.weixin.qq.com/s/bYLKXk1VjebUWNBpHt51OA</a></li>
<li>BTCStudy <a href="https://www.btcstudy.org" rel="nofollow">https://www.btcstudy.org</a></li>
<li>矿工不会接受EIP -1559，因为这是永久的收益剥夺 <a href="https://zhuanlan.zhihu.com/p/353686050" rel="nofollow">https://zhuanlan.zhihu.com/p/353686050</a></li>
<li>失而复得但是评论全部丢失的预言家周报第 130 期《以太坊的隐忧》 <a href="https://mp.weixin.qq.com/s/8i5X2KCVw7iLKlLrKR1njA" rel="nofollow">https://mp.weixin.qq.com/s/8i5X2KCVw7iLKlLrKR1njA</a></li>
<li>关于被举报的预言家周报第 130 期（在微信中打开可以看评论） <a href="https://mp.weixin.qq.com/s/Eg8fO-8LRUC9EJTaPoQdww" rel="nofollow">https://mp.weixin.qq.com/s/Eg8fO-8LRUC9EJTaPoQdww</a></li>
<li>隔离见证 SegWit <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/SegWit" rel="nofollow">https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/SegWit</a></li>
<li>比特币升级提案 Taproot 技术解读 <a href="https://www.btcstudy.org/2021/10/27/taproot-is-more-important-than-your-imageine/" rel="nofollow">https://www.btcstudy.org/2021/10/27/taproot-is-more-important-than-your-imageine/</a></li>
<li>BTCStudy 文化标签页，了解比特币精神的入口 <a href="https://www.btcstudy.org/tags/%E6%96%87%E5%8C%96/" rel="nofollow">https://www.btcstudy.org/tags/文化/</a></li>
</ul>

<p>Pick 环节</p>

<ul>
<li>自带支架和蓝光护眼认证，高性价比的微星显示器 <a href="https://item.m.jd.com/product/100017353855.html" rel="nofollow">https://item.m.jd.com/product/100017353855.html</a></li>
<li>Nostr <a href="https://github.com/nostr-protocol/nostr" rel="nofollow">https://github.com/nostr-protocol/nostr</a></li>
<li>Zettelkasten 卡片式笔记方法简介 <a href="https://zettelkasten.de/introduction/zh/" rel="nofollow">https://zettelkasten.de/introduction/zh/</a></li>
<li>北斗儿童3D凹凸地图 <a href="https://www.taobao.com/list/item/660658781791.htm" rel="nofollow">https://www.taobao.com/list/item/660658781791.htm</a></li>
</ul><p>Special Guest: 阿剑.</p>]]>
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  <title>#22 - PoW vs PoS</title>
  <link>http://forkit.fm/22</link>
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  <pubDate>Wed, 31 Aug 2022 01:00:00 +0800</pubDate>
  <author>Fork It</author>
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  <itunes:subtitle>ETH升级后可能会面临协议级审查吗？这意味着什么？如果是 PoW 会不会有什么不同？</itunes:subtitle>
  <itunes:duration>1:40:09</itunes:duration>
  <itunes:explicit>no</itunes:explicit>
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  <description>&lt;p&gt;Tornado.cash 被制裁，ETH 即将升级到 PoS, 超过 66% Staking Service 是美国的合规机构。&lt;br&gt;
ETH升级后可能会面临协议级审查吗？如果会，这将意味着什么？如果是 PoW 会不会有什么不同？&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;带着这些问题，让我们节目的老朋友王博(Cipher) 给你慢慢聊聊 PoW vs PoS 的话题。&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;h3&gt;Shownotes&lt;/h3&gt;

&lt;ul&gt;
&lt;li&gt;播客客户端推荐

&lt;ul&gt;
&lt;li&gt;&lt;a href="https://castro.fm/" target="_blank" rel="nofollow noopener"&gt;Castro&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;&lt;a href="https://overcast.fm/" target="_blank" rel="nofollow noopener"&gt;Overcast&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;&lt;a href="https://pocketcasts.com/" target="_blank" rel="nofollow noopener"&gt;Pocket Casts&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;/ul&gt;
&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;&lt;a href="https://home.treasury.gov/news/press-releases/jy0916" target="_blank" rel="nofollow noopener"&gt;U.S. Treasury Sanctions Notorious Virtual Currency Mixer Tornado Cash&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;&lt;a href="https://home.treasury.gov/policy-issues/office-of-foreign-assets-control-sanctions-programs-and-information" target="_blank" rel="nofollow noopener"&gt;OFAC&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;&lt;a href="https://ethereum.org/en/upgrades/merge/" target="_blank" rel="nofollow noopener"&gt;Ethereum The Merge&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;&lt;a href="https://talk.nervos.org/t/mining-staking/3028" target="_blank" rel="nofollow noopener"&gt;Mining 向左，Staking 向右——公链的两大演进方向与价值分析&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;&lt;a href="https://twitter.com/LefterisJP/status/1558944794658873344" target="_blank" rel="nofollow noopener"&gt;Poll: If regulators ask you to censor at the ethereum protocol level with your validators will you&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;&lt;a href="https://baike.baidu.com/item/%E5%9D%8E%E8%92%82%E9%9A%86%E6%95%88%E5%BA%94/9181511" target="_blank" rel="nofollow noopener"&gt;坎蒂隆效应&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;&lt;a href="https://zh.wikipedia.org/wiki/%E9%80%9A%E5%BE%80%E5%A5%B4%E5%BD%B9%E4%B9%8B%E8%B7%AF" target="_blank" rel="nofollow noopener"&gt;通往奴役之路&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;&lt;a href="https://twitter.com/brian_armstrong" target="_blank" rel="nofollow noopener"&gt;Brian Armstrong: … if we did we'd go with B i think…&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;&lt;a href="https://ethereum.org/en/developers/docs/mev/" target="_blank" rel="nofollow noopener"&gt;MEV&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;&lt;a href="https://github.com/flashbots/pm" target="_blank" rel="nofollow noopener"&gt;Flashbots&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;&lt;a href="https://twitter.com/hosseeb" target="_blank" rel="nofollow noopener"&gt;Haseeb&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;&lt;a href="https://haseebq.com/how-defi-cannibalizes-pos-security/" target="_blank" rel="nofollow noopener"&gt;How DeFi cannibalizes PoS security&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;&lt;a href="https://dlt-repo.net/long-range-attack-in-proof-of-stake-pos-blockchains/" target="_blank" rel="nofollow noopener"&gt;Long Range Attack&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;&lt;a href="https://academy.binance.com/en/glossary/weak-subjectivity" target="_blank" rel="nofollow noopener"&gt;Weak Subjectivity&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;&lt;a href="https://golden.com/wiki/Nothing-at-stake_problem" target="_blank" rel="nofollow noopener"&gt;Nothing-at-stake problem&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;&lt;a href="https://zh.wikipedia.org/zh-hant/%E6%89%98%E6%8B%89%E6%96%AF" target="_blank" rel="nofollow noopener"&gt;托拉斯&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;&lt;a href="https://www.investopedia.com/terms/p/proof-capacity-cryptocurrency.asp" target="_blank" rel="nofollow noopener"&gt;Proof of Capacity&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;&lt;a href="https://eprint.iacr.org/2020/1117" target="_blank" rel="nofollow noopener"&gt;Economic Proof of Work&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;
&lt;a href="https://www.oppo.com/cn/accessories/oppo-watch-3-pro/" target="_blank" rel="nofollow noopener"&gt;OPPO Watch 3&lt;/a&gt;
Special Guest: 王博.&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;/ul&gt;
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  <content:encoded>
    <![CDATA[<p>Tornado.cash 被制裁，ETH 即将升级到 PoS, 超过 66% Staking Service 是美国的合规机构。<br>
ETH升级后可能会面临协议级审查吗？如果会，这将意味着什么？如果是 PoW 会不会有什么不同？</p>

<p>带着这些问题，让我们节目的老朋友王博(Cipher) 给你慢慢聊聊 PoW vs PoS 的话题。</p>

<h3>Shownotes</h3>

<ul>
<li>播客客户端推荐

<ul>
<li><a href="https://castro.fm/" rel="nofollow">Castro</a></li>
<li><a href="https://overcast.fm/" rel="nofollow">Overcast</a></li>
<li><a href="https://pocketcasts.com/" rel="nofollow">Pocket Casts</a></li>
</ul></li>
<li><a href="https://home.treasury.gov/news/press-releases/jy0916" rel="nofollow">U.S. Treasury Sanctions Notorious Virtual Currency Mixer Tornado Cash</a></li>
<li><a href="https://home.treasury.gov/policy-issues/office-of-foreign-assets-control-sanctions-programs-and-information" rel="nofollow">OFAC</a></li>
<li><a href="https://ethereum.org/en/upgrades/merge/" rel="nofollow">Ethereum The Merge</a></li>
<li><a href="https://talk.nervos.org/t/mining-staking/3028" rel="nofollow">Mining 向左，Staking 向右——公链的两大演进方向与价值分析</a></li>
<li><a href="https://twitter.com/LefterisJP/status/1558944794658873344" rel="nofollow">Poll: If regulators ask you to censor at the ethereum protocol level with your validators will you</a></li>
<li><a href="https://baike.baidu.com/item/%E5%9D%8E%E8%92%82%E9%9A%86%E6%95%88%E5%BA%94/9181511" rel="nofollow">坎蒂隆效应</a></li>
<li><a href="https://zh.wikipedia.org/wiki/%E9%80%9A%E5%BE%80%E5%A5%B4%E5%BD%B9%E4%B9%8B%E8%B7%AF" rel="nofollow">通往奴役之路</a></li>
<li><a href="https://twitter.com/brian_armstrong" rel="nofollow">Brian Armstrong: … if we did we&#39;d go with B i think…</a></li>
<li><a href="https://ethereum.org/en/developers/docs/mev/" rel="nofollow">MEV</a></li>
<li><a href="https://github.com/flashbots/pm" rel="nofollow">Flashbots</a></li>
<li><a href="https://twitter.com/hosseeb" rel="nofollow">Haseeb</a></li>
<li><a href="https://haseebq.com/how-defi-cannibalizes-pos-security/" rel="nofollow">How DeFi cannibalizes PoS security</a></li>
<li><a href="https://dlt-repo.net/long-range-attack-in-proof-of-stake-pos-blockchains/" rel="nofollow">Long Range Attack</a></li>
<li><a href="https://academy.binance.com/en/glossary/weak-subjectivity" rel="nofollow">Weak Subjectivity</a></li>
<li><a href="https://golden.com/wiki/Nothing-at-stake_problem" rel="nofollow">Nothing-at-stake problem</a></li>
<li><a href="https://zh.wikipedia.org/zh-hant/%E6%89%98%E6%8B%89%E6%96%AF" rel="nofollow">托拉斯</a></li>
<li><a href="https://www.investopedia.com/terms/p/proof-capacity-cryptocurrency.asp" rel="nofollow">Proof of Capacity</a></li>
<li><a href="https://eprint.iacr.org/2020/1117" rel="nofollow">Economic Proof of Work</a></li>
<li><a href="https://www.oppo.com/cn/accessories/oppo-watch-3-pro/" rel="nofollow">OPPO Watch 3</a></li>
</ul><p>Special Guest: 王博.</p>]]>
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  <itunes:summary>
    <![CDATA[<p>Tornado.cash 被制裁，ETH 即将升级到 PoS, 超过 66% Staking Service 是美国的合规机构。<br>
ETH升级后可能会面临协议级审查吗？如果会，这将意味着什么？如果是 PoW 会不会有什么不同？</p>

<p>带着这些问题，让我们节目的老朋友王博(Cipher) 给你慢慢聊聊 PoW vs PoS 的话题。</p>

<h3>Shownotes</h3>

<ul>
<li>播客客户端推荐

<ul>
<li><a href="https://castro.fm/" rel="nofollow">Castro</a></li>
<li><a href="https://overcast.fm/" rel="nofollow">Overcast</a></li>
<li><a href="https://pocketcasts.com/" rel="nofollow">Pocket Casts</a></li>
</ul></li>
<li><a href="https://home.treasury.gov/news/press-releases/jy0916" rel="nofollow">U.S. Treasury Sanctions Notorious Virtual Currency Mixer Tornado Cash</a></li>
<li><a href="https://home.treasury.gov/policy-issues/office-of-foreign-assets-control-sanctions-programs-and-information" rel="nofollow">OFAC</a></li>
<li><a href="https://ethereum.org/en/upgrades/merge/" rel="nofollow">Ethereum The Merge</a></li>
<li><a href="https://talk.nervos.org/t/mining-staking/3028" rel="nofollow">Mining 向左，Staking 向右——公链的两大演进方向与价值分析</a></li>
<li><a href="https://twitter.com/LefterisJP/status/1558944794658873344" rel="nofollow">Poll: If regulators ask you to censor at the ethereum protocol level with your validators will you</a></li>
<li><a href="https://baike.baidu.com/item/%E5%9D%8E%E8%92%82%E9%9A%86%E6%95%88%E5%BA%94/9181511" rel="nofollow">坎蒂隆效应</a></li>
<li><a href="https://zh.wikipedia.org/wiki/%E9%80%9A%E5%BE%80%E5%A5%B4%E5%BD%B9%E4%B9%8B%E8%B7%AF" rel="nofollow">通往奴役之路</a></li>
<li><a href="https://twitter.com/brian_armstrong" rel="nofollow">Brian Armstrong: … if we did we&#39;d go with B i think…</a></li>
<li><a href="https://ethereum.org/en/developers/docs/mev/" rel="nofollow">MEV</a></li>
<li><a href="https://github.com/flashbots/pm" rel="nofollow">Flashbots</a></li>
<li><a href="https://twitter.com/hosseeb" rel="nofollow">Haseeb</a></li>
<li><a href="https://haseebq.com/how-defi-cannibalizes-pos-security/" rel="nofollow">How DeFi cannibalizes PoS security</a></li>
<li><a href="https://dlt-repo.net/long-range-attack-in-proof-of-stake-pos-blockchains/" rel="nofollow">Long Range Attack</a></li>
<li><a href="https://academy.binance.com/en/glossary/weak-subjectivity" rel="nofollow">Weak Subjectivity</a></li>
<li><a href="https://golden.com/wiki/Nothing-at-stake_problem" rel="nofollow">Nothing-at-stake problem</a></li>
<li><a href="https://zh.wikipedia.org/zh-hant/%E6%89%98%E6%8B%89%E6%96%AF" rel="nofollow">托拉斯</a></li>
<li><a href="https://www.investopedia.com/terms/p/proof-capacity-cryptocurrency.asp" rel="nofollow">Proof of Capacity</a></li>
<li><a href="https://eprint.iacr.org/2020/1117" rel="nofollow">Economic Proof of Work</a></li>
<li><a href="https://www.oppo.com/cn/accessories/oppo-watch-3-pro/" rel="nofollow">OPPO Watch 3</a></li>
</ul><p>Special Guest: 王博.</p>]]>
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